Statler Plans Shifting


The Buffalo News provides details on the hotel plans:
British developer Bashar Issa has decided to keep four floors of original, mothballed hotel rooms intact and outfit them in an art deco theme. Earlier plans called for the existing rooms to be gutted to make way for contemporary rooms and a reconfigured layout.
The original hotel rooms, on floors nine through 12 of the 74-year-old building, have sat untouched since the former Statler Hilton was converted to an office tower in the 1970s. Work already is under way to refurbish the 210 idle rooms, and Issa’s BSC Group is holding talks with a potential hotel operator with the goal of opening the hotel in the next 12 months.
Plans for a parking ramp addition along Franklin Street have been eliminated according to Business First:
Issa also is dropping plans to build a multi-level parking garage on the eastern side of the building. The garage will likely be constructed across Mohawk Street.
He said he has tenantive plans for additional office, residential and retail space where the garage was planned. From an engineering standpoint, that section could easily house a 16-story structure with at least 300,000 square feet.
“It would be like the ‘fourth finger’ of the Statler,” Issa said.
Also coming to the Statler is a new health club that will include the hotel’s swimming pool, last used more than 50 years ago.
Cosmetic work on the building is expected to begin shortly. Issa is planning to install new marble flooring in the lobby and lower level, new windows on the first three floors, and the shabby awning along Delaware Avenue and Niagara Square will be removed. In addition, the building’s terra cotta and red brick will be repaired and cleaned, and new exterior lighting is planned.

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sbrof
It is nice to see this project moving ahead. Keep it up!
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SLEEPL8
Is the location across Mohawk on the proposed tower site? Or is the tower site across Delaware? If he builds this "fourth finger" for the statler will he still have the capital/demand/ambition to build the tower?? I am getting the feeling that the tower may not be a very serious plan. A week or two ago some of bloggers had stated that the statler is beginning to look like a flipper. I have to say I disagree if in fact he is going ahead with the additional structure and the parking garage. Go ahead everyone...start bitching about the parking ramp...
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flyguy
I would bitch about a new surface lot but certainly not ramp parking downtown and the prospect of adding another vertical element to the city. Nothing wrong with ramps in downtown, espially in an automobile based city and region. Also, I have concerns that the tower will be scrapped for a "fourth finger" as well. Sounds alot like Adelphia's 30 floor tower that was again and again downgraded to 15 floors and on and on and never realized. I really hope there is an update on the 40 story tower very soon to eleviate this concern.
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WCPerspective
The same Bflo. News article stated that Issa has had preliminary discussions with a local firm about taking 250,000 sq.ft. of space in City Tower. It appears as though the focus is on the Statler, but City Tower is moving forward as well- at least marketing. The ramp site is likely the surface lot that Mark Croce bought last year across Mohawk Street between Delaware and Franklin. The City Tower site is at Mohawk and S. Elmwood.
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gaustad
I just hope the terra cotta design is perserved so that our urban fabric can be well maintained -
Question, how is Issa going ot open four hotel floors to the public while he is renovating the rest of the building at the same time - I appreciate the fast pace, but seems unrealistic.
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Gotime
Gaustad, I've been through hotel renovations that go floor by floor, as long as there are freight elevators it can be done, typically the noise level isn't an issue if there is a buffer between floors.
I like the idea of Deco rooms, could be a nice fit for the downtown hotel market. Plus, starting with a small number of rooms (200) would not saturate the market. Travelers are seeking mid to high end rooms in Buffalo. The hotels with the highest occupancy rates (ie demand) are the Hampton and the Mansion, the two best maintained and up to date hotels in downtown.
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BuffaloItalianGuy
It would be cool if someone from Buffalo Rising was allowed into the Statler to take a few pictures of the swimming pool and the old hotel rooms. I'd love to see how they look after not being used in all these years.
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RoBear
Well you are in luck. I am part of the Group getting the Statler going. We will be sharing images that show the progress. I am one of the project managers on the Hotel project and do have images of the spaces. We are extremely excited to get the project going. Bashar has incredible vision for this huge undertaking. We will be posting images along the path.
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Hudy2005
I always thought it would be nice to have a rooftop garden on the triangular wing of the building extending toward Pearl St. That would be something truely unique in Buffalo. It could either be used as an outdoor space for the office/condo tenants to use, or be used by a restaurant for outdoor seating.
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Jefferson
I wonder when the purple awning will come down. Never cared much for it.
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W-Villager
Did anyone happen to catch the CBS Sunday Morning Program last weekend? They covered a story about Ian Schrager's hotels and his innovative designs. He's responsible for the Gramercy Park Hotel, and was one of the owners of Studio 54 back in the age of disco. Anyway, maybe the Statler Hotel could take a page from that book and do the unthinkable...imitate it. When I hear "outfit rooms in an art deco theme" I get excited and think about the CBS Sunday Morning Piece. For a summary, here's the web address: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/20/sunday/main2829491.shtml
P.S. I love your idea, Hudy2005, about the rooftop garden. I hope the powers that be are paying attention. RoBear? :)
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fearless
W-Villager ...and your point is???????? I think Issa probably has plans b, c, and d ready. You use a guys avatar, but you write like a woman....how come?
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W-Villager
Uh, perhaps because I'm in touch with my X chromosomes? Sorry if my writing style isn't masculine enough for you. I'll try to butch it up in the future. OK fearless?
And since you asked what my point it, I guess I'll answer your quesion...even if you asked it in a particularly boarish manner. This post was about plans for a hotel. Those plans have changed in the past and could be changed again in the future. My comment was about good hotel design, and if you can't make a connection then I'm surprised you can operate a computer.
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W-Villager
And besides, fearless, you've assumed too much. Just because you see short, spikey hair and a leather jacket, you assume that it's a guy's avatar? I know plenty of women who fit that description. You don't get out much, do you? You're using a monkey's avatar (Or is that a New Age Alien?) and I'd say that it's quite appropriate for you.
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hennesey
Why can't we just keep on the subject matter. Everyone has their own opinion and should be allowed to express it. fearless made a point and added something extra. It also is very obvious that fearless is a young person, so that should be taken into consideration. Any adult would have shrugged off the comment.
Then W-Villager took it to the extreme. I have a few friends in the West Village Neighborhood and asked if they were aware of this person posting under this name. They were not and I was relieved that they had no idea who this person was. Unfortunately, W-Villager makes the whole neighborhood look bad, especially considering all the good work they do there.
So, let's try to keep on topic here and stop the insults and childish comebacks. This is not a site for cutting remarks, this is a site for new ideas and coming together to build a better Buffalo.
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W-Villager
hennesey, Well said. Let's keep this on topic, shall we? What's this obsession a few of you seem to have with figuring out the identity of the people commenting on this blog? It's a little creepy.
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MRodgers
Saw this and had to comment. Not sure who W-Villager is, but their comments are not associated with the organization that works in the West Village area. Please do not correlate the two, and thanks, Hennesy, for asking around.
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W-Villager
...not that lacking a membership card to MRodgers' neighborhood group should render the opinions of other West Village residents automatically invalid and/or irrelevant.
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MRodgers
Opinions are always cherished throughout any neighborhood.
There is no membership for the WVRG which is a nonprofit organization aside from any individual block clubs that each street may have. One or two representatives from each street in the West Village are on the Board of Directors as are representatives from various businesses, government entities, and organizations on the WVRG Board of Advisors.
This notice was sent as damage control since the opinion/s and dialogue of this person known as W-Villager could be construed as the opinion of the WVRG. It is our right to protect the work and the reputation of the organization, so this simple disclaimer was intiated as it has been in the past.
Any further comment is unnecessary at this point. To the readers that have had to go through this diatribe: Thank you for your patience.
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W-Villager
I can certainly understand why the West Village Renaissance Group would want to disassociate itself from a resident who is an admitted viewer of CBS Sunday Morning. For the record, my name is W-Villager, indicating nothing more than I live in the West Village. I did not call myself WVRG-er. If I lived in Allentown, I might have selected the name "Allentowner." You're correct that it's your right to issue a disclaimer as "damage control" in response to your percieved threat to your organization's reputation. However, you do not have the right to bully someone into feeling the need to explain how he or she selected a username. You don't give enough credit to the average BRO reader if you think that anyone would have misconstrued my comment about the CBS Sunday Morning show as the opinion of the WVRG. Even if someone had done so, would it really have been so damaging? Perhaps you've overestimated your group and arrived at the conclusion that "The West Village" is synonymous with "West Village Renaissance Group." It might surprise you, and some other BRO readers, to learn that plenty of things happen in the West Village that don't include the WVRG. Many of the accomplishments that have been achieved are not attributed to the good work of your organization...and it is good work. Some residents have made their own personal investments, financial and otherwise, in the neighborhood despite (and not because of) your group and what SOME people see as your interference (not assistance). In fact I find it outrageous that you willfully and knowingly accept praise for the accomplishments of others. And as far as that last part of your didactic comment, you know what they say; one man's diatribe is another man's freindly banter. And isn't that what a blog is about after all? You may be used to acting as thought police within your own neighborhood group, but I'm shocked that even you would have the audacity to presume having the right to tell another BRO subscriber what comments are (or are not) appropriate. If you review the comments from the beginning, I think you will find that I posted a naively innocent comment about hotel design. And then the rest of the comments turned into me defending myself from you and your minions. Further review would indicate that your own input, MRodgers, was gratuitous and did nothing but simply add fuel to the fire. You expsose yourself as a hypocrite, in my opinion, with your last comment because you start out with a touchy feely sentiment such as, "Opinions are always cherished throughout any neighborhood." Then you end by telling me that "any further comment is unnecessary." So I guess you don't cherish my opinions as much as you purport. And then you presume having the right to determine who gets the last word, and it had better be yours. Some people say that everyone is entitled to their opinion. You seem to say that everyone is entitled to YOUR opinion.
For the record, although my comments may not be relevant to the original topic at hand, they are extremely relevant to the comments that followed. It's a shame that I would be made to feel the need to explain and defend myself when I thought I posted a freindly and thoughtful comment about hotel design. And, MRodgers, I should mention that I wouldn't have included you in my defense had you not felt the urge to get in a jab at me where you saw the opportunity. Believe me, I wish I was able to take Hennesey's advice and "shrug off the (insulting) comment(s)." I'll try to do better in the future. Are you now going to issue your disclaimer every time I make a comment about any story? I hope not because, as you see, when I'm attacked I'll respond. Hmm, then again, I guess I've said everything I wanted to say so go ahead and rip me to shreds. Gee, It used to be fun to post comments on this blog.
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TonyD
Sounds like a personal attack to me. Don't worry WVRG, every neighborhood has a curmudgeon.
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AuburnAve
hennesey and MRodgers - posting on a blog is supposed to be annonomyous, so people like you do not try and intimidate or insult individuals. Let opinions be broadcast. No one is purporting to be in you rlittle group. Please try not to be so self-righteous. It's ugly.
Regarding the post - Hope to see a good mixed use development for the Statler. Condos in the upper floors, hotel, offices, rooftop patio. This reminds me so much of the William Penn hotel in Pittsburgh. Not the same architect, but similar design. Gorgeous hotel there...
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hennesey
And those who post using their real names are those who are forthright and truthful, not afraid to hide behind a nickname.
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