Parking Deck Paranoia

There is a small group of amateur photographers documenting Buffalo inside and out. They rove the city streets focusing their lenses on the good the bad and the ugly. To get their images they hunt out unusual angles often inside abandoned buildings, on overpasses, or on the top floor of parking decks among other out of the way vantage points. They share much of their work on web-folio sites filed with gorgeous often haunting Buffalo images. They also share their thoughts on the city at web-forum sites such as skyscrapercity.com. Pictures are also shared on these forums in addition to endless conversation about Buffalo (and other places across the globe). The conversation can be wide ranging including mindless banter, development news, urbanism, and discussions on society.
One such recent discussion has been about the heavy-handed security these photo enthusiasts often encounter as they point and shoot. It is not uncommon to be flagged down by a security guard if you aim your lens at a prominent landmark. I have experienced this myself on several occasions. Often, with a simple explanation accompanied by a friendly smile the tension will drop and you can continue on. But, in today's terrorism conscious world, people are less trusting and perhaps justifiably. Too often it seems security is done without any level of common sense. Are we taking our security to the level of paranoia?

Here are a few excepts from the conversation (I have used forum screen names here):
SpartaRoolz opened the conversation with this: ... Without fail tryin to take photos from a parking ramp always causes a problem. Always. I was on the one by M&T last night and the security guard obviously freaked out. Said it was privately owned. "who owns it?" The city does was the reply. .... I walked with him downstairs to talk to the police about it. 3 police officers came to talk to me about how i need my own insurance to be on there in case anything happens ($1,000,000 worth) and i need to talk to the owner to get permission. Couldn't produce a number for me to call the "owner" and since 911 they have been having problems with people taking photographs of the city from parking ramps. LIKE THAT IS A PROBLEM???? I wasn't making a scene, I wasn't suspicious, I wasn't taking terrorist shots. ...
jsk193 added this bit of irony: Its interesting that there is an increased forbidance of taking urban photos yet at the same time Google seems to have photos of just about every street in Greater Buffalo easily [sic] acessble to anyone.
Frequent BRO writer WestSideJohn adds: It's a problem and it's getting worse all the time. Last summer I was escorted off the Peace Bridge and into the Customs office for taking pictures, even though I'd asked permission beforehand...
...If someone says "don't take pictures here" I'll say thank you and leave. But in this day of cell-phone cameras and miniature point and shoots, it doesn't make much sense to focus only on people who happen to have a large camera. I've been turned away from Thursday in the Square because of my camera, while people in the crowd hold up their cell phones to take photos of the band.

Is this type of security is useful or are we focussing our energy on phantoms. We may never know.
Check out more of the amazing photography these guys have been producing )more and more on the sly)

SpartaRoolz http://nmophotography.zenfolio.com/ BuffCity http://nmophotography.zenfolio.com/ (note -Images shown here are by BuffCity AKA Nathan Farnsworth. He has shared many of his images with BRO. We thank him for his generosity)

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Hoss
Basic Photographers Rights. Read it. Print it. Carry it.
http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf
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Jay
holy crap, great pictures.
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sbrof
It is an utter shame what this presidential administration has infused into poeple's minds. I was listening to NPR and a small town of about 15k says they need a swat team with automatic riffles because of terrorism.. Get over it! What happened to land of the free? I remember getting turned away from many sites through college taking pictures. The US coast guard actually ended up calling the School of Architecture to tell them that no one was ever allowed to go photograph the rail road bridge anymore.
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Tuco
Definitely check out the links at the bottom of the article. The galleries of photos from abandoned buildings are amazing!
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TheWhyNotGuy
The story didn't mention this but I've also been stopped and questioned by Buffalo Place rangers, once while standing on Main Street at about 7 p.m. taking photos of the AM&As building. The told me to stop taking photos AND accused me of giving the finger (!) to a security guard at Main Place. What kind of impression would that have given, say, a tourist in town for a convention who happened to be out exploring? We work very hard presenting Buffalo and its people in the best possible light, but incidents like these can cancel out our efforts instantly.
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sonyactivision
The parking ramp "paranoia" is laughable and those cops and security guards need to quit embarrassing themselves by behaving like drama queens. The urbex photos are great but those 'infiltrations' are acts of trespass with all of the history of theft and vandalism that that implies so there is a responsibility for security to keep watch here, and for these photogs to police themselves and treat these places, as messed up as some of them are, with respect, as I believe these ones here do.
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flyguy
I've been approached on 3 occassions in Buffalo taking pictures by security personnel and/ or construction persons. Good luck trying to shoot the HSBC Center anymore. A few years back a group of urban planning design students were tasked with inventorying lower Main Street and engaging in a conceptual architectural design project. Of course this included the HSBC. Within minutes security guards flanking both sides of Main Street came up the street to inform us we must stop taking pictures. A few months later I was taking pics of the vacant parcel of land slated to be developed for the HealthNow Corporate HQ as I enjoy taking construction pics to show progress within the city and again was approached by a parking lot attendant asking the who, what, where, when, and why questions of me...really hassling me. This occured again on Delaware Avenue. Its not fun being a photographer in Buffalo. Heck, I've had far less hassle photographing buildings in Washington DC, Baltimore, New York City, than in Buffalo. I guess Buffalonians arent used to photographers around or tourists. Maybe it happens elsewhere but I havent had any issues anywhere but back home in Buffalo.
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flyguy
This country really really needs to reassess how truly "free" its people are to do basic things like take pictures. Seems more and more restrictive everyday. I question how free we truly are anymore, especially in comparison to other nations in Europe and even Canada.
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flyguy
Thanks to radical paranoia and groups of hateful people in this world that make people a bit uneasy I guess its welcome to the guilty until proven innocent culture. I for one take pics because its a hobby of mine, I have an interest in urban places and am in planning by trade. I love history and architecture and love seeing and capturing these places. These images are a great historical documentation to hand down to future generations as well.
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agentgumby
I've been able to take pictures around the city--even on parking ramps--basically unmolested. Admittedly, I have to be extremely sneaky and do it in the middle of the night. I have been turned away from the Liberty Building, though, on the grounds that "you never know these days" and something about "them there Lackawanna Six." I couldn't believe it.
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