Done Deal: Chippewa Sale

Done Deal: Chippewa Sale

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A Chippewa Street building has sold for almost a million dollars. Crazy Horse Development Inc. has purchased 45 W. Chippewa, where Big Shotz bar occupies the ground floor, for $950,000. Previous owner Kreu-Shell LLC purchased the building in 1995 for $348,000.

The upper floors of the circa-1882, three-story building contain a rooming house with 46 units. Tenants residing in the building have been a source of complaints and criminal activity for years. No word if the new owners have changes in store.

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  1. westsidemike

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    May 2nd 2007, 06:24

    According to who has the criminal activity come from? And who has complained? Other property owners on Chippewa have complained because the people are not middle income suburbanites. There are more police calls on Chippewa for fights and drunkenness from the 20 year olds.

  2. Jefferson

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    May 2nd 2007, 06:52

    Wow look at all that surface parking!

  3. markgoldman

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    May 2nd 2007, 07:44

    Since we bought the CAlumet Building in 1988 we've been living with the horrors of the Chippewa Hotel. Through the term of two and a half mayors and even more police chiefs, we have done all that we could to call attention to the problems there.Yet nothing has ever been done to improve the place. Our problem with the hotel has not been, as one correspondent suggests, because the residents are not "middle-income suburbanites", but rather because many of them are and have been pan-handling, deeply annoying, if not dangerous, drug addicts. In addition, the property has been poorly maintained, with little effort paid to any house-keeping amenities let alone compliance with local building codes. One of the problems here is that there is little financial incentive to change the nature and character of the place since almost all of the rents go directly to the landlords in the form of County and federal welfare benefits. It is therefore unlikely that the new owners, unless they are willing to make an enormous short-term sacrfice, will do much to alter the form and the function of what for too long has been known as "The Chippewa Hotel."

  4. al-alo

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    May 2nd 2007, 08:39

    Wow! drugs? criminal activity? who do i call to get a room?

  5. Sal

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    May 2nd 2007, 09:37

    Didn't the building sell in November, 1994 for $90,000? Hopefully the city will notice that this property is assessed at $245,000 and, considering a $950,000 sale, loses just over $30,000 per year in potential property tax revenue.

    What markgoldman said is correct about tenants receiving welfare benefits. In my experience with these types of buildings Erie County Social Services and Section 8 (federal housing program) will not pay the landlord if a certificate (occupancy and boiler to name two) are expired. In the 418 class (rooming house) the landlord must have an on-site manager and change bed linens weekly, for example.

    Personally I would not want to change the way these benefits are directed. It gives private landlords a chance to earn a living, rather than housing all "low-income" people in city, state and federally-funded projects which are a complete waste of taxpayer money.

  6. RonR

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    May 2nd 2007, 09:38

    I think the new cost of the building and the taxes is SHOULD bring will soon make having this property as a boarding house not realistic. Which is good news.

  7. cobblestone

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    May 2nd 2007, 10:52

    As another Chippewa Street owner, I can fully validate the issues relating to the hotel. The hotel has been a major problem on the street. The owners have done nothing to try to curb the problem or even addresss. They just take the state funded rent every month and let the tennants do what the please. Local political leaders have tried to address but run into road block. For Chippewa to go to next level...the Hotel Chippewa must go and alternative use built. That is the big question...ball is in new owners corner.

  8. STEEL

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    May 2nd 2007, 11:17

    With a mortgage in the Million $$ range they are likely looking for a higher use (unless the bar pays the freight). No one wants to live above a loud nightclub however so it will be interesting to see what happens

  9. TommyBoi

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    May 2nd 2007, 12:24

    It's about time this issue came up. I hate walking past this building sometimes (even in the day time) because of the pan handlers and dirty looking people harrasing people as they walk by. Face it, this place is also a DUMP, something needs to be done with it...Tear it down and build something NEW , or Renovate it completly. And please put somehing over the surface lot next door, That's another EYESORE.

  10. Denizen

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    May 2nd 2007, 12:33

    Torch it!

  11. TommyBoi

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    May 2nd 2007, 13:09

    Wow, look at that busy downtown traffic in this photo, LOL. Why not introduce RETAIL to this district to make it busy in the daytime, or better yet, a 24/7 Destination?

  12. katiemd

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    May 2nd 2007, 14:49

    I live in the neighborhood and certainly do hate running by there in the morning. It's not the people so much as the smelly cigarette butts, booze containers, and garbage. I'm surprised nobody has gotten on the bar owners to do a better cleanup after the nightly fesitivites.

  13. Jet2Vegas

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    May 2nd 2007, 14:51

    Gee Sal, thanks for bringing the assessment to the attention of the assessors, Im sure the new owners wan to really pay theat 45k tax bill every year...what a joke!!! Im with Mark G on this one, that place is a notorious crack and heroin den. 2 deaths from overdoses in the past 12 mos alone

  14. Jet2Vegas

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    May 2nd 2007, 14:51

    Get a new photo BTW

  15. DJK

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    May 2nd 2007, 15:15

    Oh, OK TommieBoi... Introduce RETAIL? Yeah, "they" should. Hmmm... 24/7 destination? That sounds good, too! Put something over the surface lot next door? Gee, you're right! That would be great.

    All this cliche'd advice and ridiculous criticism from people who have probably never paid a dollar in taxes to the City in their lives is what drives me away from BRO every so often.

    All of this stuff is market driven. The reason you haven't heard anything about Issa's mixed use skyscraper recently is the same reason Chippewa has crime-ridden boarding houses and surface lots. But this million dollar sale is a start.

  16. iAMbuffalo

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    May 2nd 2007, 16:27

    SAL, you write: In the 418 class (rooming house) the landlord must have an on-site manager and change bed linens weekly, for example.

    Only the bed linens part is right. Until now, of course, since the Councilman Davis pushed a rooming house law in where on site licensed managers have to be a part of the equation. Only one drawback on the new laws, the head cheese Tobe forgot to send out the notices 2 and a half months after the law has been passed. Seems the good commish can't keep track of what makes a difference in the city to the taxpayers.

  17. BryanJamesWhitley

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    May 2nd 2007, 19:51

    Please just gut it and turn it into retail and living space. Take the "Chip Strip" back and make it more than a bar area. Mixed use makes more people happy and will cut down on the crime, increase daytime usage, and alleviate that putrid smell from the bar.

  18. Sal

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    May 2nd 2007, 23:47

    DJK - actually I pay a lot of property taxes, both personally and corporately. My assessment was tripled on my home in the Elmwood Village this past year. I bring up tax assessments quite often because they dictate how my business is run.

  19. scooter

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    May 3rd 2007, 16:20

    This is section 8 housing? Government paying the bills for people who can't make it on thier own or moreover may have issues such as drug use?

    if so....doesn't it seem cruel to put these people above a bar? in a nightclub district?

    Great job uncle sam!

  20. HelenWheels

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    May 4th 2007, 21:03

    The tenants were there before the bars. But, with govt subsidized housing for tenants such as these ya need supportive services to cut the crime and the drugs back a bit. This type of housing should go hand in hand with supportive services.

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