@buffaloweiner, that's the point I was trying to make at 13:45.

@Steel, you don't know where those cars ultimately exit Route 5 after they reach at-grade any more than I do, so I don't know why you keep positing your wild-ass-guess as fact. Also, I think the point that people are making is that an at-grade…

Steel - not sure if you realize this, but the outer harbor right now is a peninsula, so a steet grid there (for what? the weeds? ) isn't going to have much effect. If you guys were really interested in a Boulevard, you'd be fighting tooth and…

They can't shut down the light during peak rush, because much of the traffic is coming down off Ohio Street. As to Steel's question, by the time the traffic gets down to Lackawanna, it's thinned out, thanks to an actual street grid for cars t…