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  1. bisonherd

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    Jul 2nd, 17:04

    The two greatest protectors of western civilization in the last 1000 years are French and Polish. Charles Martel who stopped the islamic invasion of Portugal and Spain in France and then drove them back and later General Sobieski whose brave Polish troops were the only armies that responded as the Islamic Ottomans invaded Greece, then the Balkans (Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia (and all the other now independent Yugoslav countries) all the way up to the walls of Vienna.

    The polish people have been ignored as the heros of western civilization along. Nearly every european war over the last thousand years had western troops crossing Poland going east or Russian troops crossing Poland going west....and in each case it was always the polish people who suffered and died at the hands of foreign invaders.

    with this post, I salute my friends the Poles!

  2. al-alo

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    Jul 2nd, 19:48

    i love how Greece is one of the pillars of western civilization, but the Ottoman Turks are not. nothing like imaginary borders.

  3. al-alo

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    Jul 2nd, 16:45

    Dam Hoover!

    Get it?

  4. Brandon28

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    Jul 8th, 17:50

    It is a sad irony that we tend to focus in history books on evil aspects of our history and tend to forget those who did good. We can name dozens of world leaders who fought in heroic wars but we can name very few humanitarians, people who protected human lives and opposed violence. Sure we all have heard about Ghandi, many of us have heard about Albert Schweitzer but that's where it ends. I was stunned to learn about Hoover's humanitarian effort. Nobody has ever told me that he saved millions of lives. We all know about Bill Gates and that he gives his fortune away, and the scale he operates on. But you have never heard about Hoover (who BTW was also an orphan). Hoover gave away millions of dollars and worked 18 hours a day to save millions of innocent war victims. He did it during WW I and WW II. You can learn a lot from Hoover's biography. I'll be the first one to see this exhibit.

  5. al-alo

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    Jul 2nd, 17:02

    but perhaps it was the private NGO success of the Belgian Relief that colored his initially limited response to the great depression.

    not that im saying Hoover was a bad man, he most certainly was a humanitarian. but the limited federal government action he took at the onset of the Depression, showed the weakness of depending on volunteer efforts.

    in fairness, late in his term Hoover took and sought more interventionist action (similar to later Roosevelt plans). sadly for his political career, it was too late.

  6. RaChaCha

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    Jul 2nd, 16:15

    Hoover also achieved well-deserved fame for coordinating Belgian Relief, which saved countless thousands of lives in war-ravaged Europe.

  7. wizardofza

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    Jul 3rd, 00:05

    define "western"

  8. al-alo

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    Jul 2nd, 15:48

    ahh Hoover. great for Poland, Hooverville, USA - not so much.

    never hear those limited govt folks proclaim Hoover's greatness. im wondering why that is.

  9. wwabbit

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    Jul 3rd, 10:01

    Props to al-alo. One reels at the irony of a Hoover exhibit at this point in our country's economic history. While some may lament the parallel, we still throw tons of money overseas when it could be much better spent here.

    Western Civilization. What a nice idea.

  10. bisonherd

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    Jul 2nd, 23:00

    moron, western civilization does not include the turks or ottomans oe persians

  11. bisonherd

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    Jul 2nd, 17:05

    The two greatest protectors of western civilization in the last 1000 years are French and Polish. Charles Martel who stopped the islamic invasion of Portugal and Spain in France and then drove them back and later General Sobieski whose brave Polish troops were the only armies that responded as the Islamic Ottomans invaded Greece, then the Balkans (Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia (and all the other now independent Yugoslav countries) all the way up to the walls of Vienna.

    The polish people have been ignored as the heros of western civilization along. Nearly every european war over the last thousand years had western troops crossing Poland going east or Russian troops crossing Poland going west....and in each case it was always the polish people who suffered and died at the hands of foreign invaders.

    with this post, I salute my friends the Poles!

  12. al-alo

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    Jul 3rd, 07:25

    well thought out retort there, bisonherd.

  13. bisonherd

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    Jul 2nd, 17:06

    The two greatest protectors of western civilization in the last 1000 years are French and Polish. Charles Martel who stopped the islamic invasion of Portugal and Spain in France and then drove them back and later General Sobieski whose brave Polish troops were the only armies that responded as the Islamic Ottomans invaded Greece, then the Balkans (Macedonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia (and all the other now independent Yugoslav countries) all the way up to the walls of Vienna.

    The polish people have been ignored as the heros of western civilization along. Nearly every european war over the last thousand years had western troops crossing Poland going east or Russian troops crossing Poland going west....and in each case it was always the polish people who suffered and died at the hands of foreign invaders.

    with this post, I salute my friends the Poles!

  14. Brette

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    Jul 3rd, 13:13

    bisonherd = Chris69 in case you hadn't 'herd'!

  15. Colin

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    Jul 2nd, 17:31

    Ok, so you don't like Jews, and you don't like Muslims either. Got it.

  16. Brandon28

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    Jul 8th, 18:18

    Before you start blaming Hoover for the Big Depression please read what Eleanor Roosevelt said about it. "He had nothing to do with it". She knew what she was talking about. Hoover was made a scapegoat during the presidential campaign. The Great Depression began in October 1929, when the stock values dropped very quickly. Why? The final blow came when it was announced that western European countries won't be able to pay their WW I reconstruction loans. Hoover's government had very little power to ease the depression. It was much later when the president received more control to produce new laws that gave the government far more power than at any time in the history to control the money market. Don't blame Hoover for the economic disaster. he had one of the more ambitious economic plans of all XX century presidents.

    wwabbit - most of the money Hoover used in Europe he collected himself from private sources many articles about it on the web. Governments don't give away money so eagerly.