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  1. tudorguy

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    May 10th 2007, 10:19

    Why the low-income piece for this great building? We have enough section 8 as it is. Get some money living on the street.

  2. Hospitable

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    May 10th 2007, 14:12

    Right up there with the section 8 housing in the Hotel Lafayette.... better than nothing? Is it really that easy to convert into condo space anyways?

  3. scooter

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    May 10th 2007, 09:55

    Although....i wish Regan Dev wasn't focused on low income housing for the Packard.

  4. tdimatteo

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    May 10th 2007, 14:35

    I think Section 8 is different from Low-Income Housing Credit Program but not exactly sure. Didn't the folks who own/run Holling Press apply for Low Income Housing Credit Program? Isn't that why they have income limits for residents and on of the lowest rents for new apts in the area? I'm not exactly sure maybe someone can get some answers?

    -The Hotel Lafayette does not take Section 8.

  5. Fudgeworth

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    May 10th 2007, 13:11

    "two places with ugly names" says PRIEZCYKNIEWSKI

  6. dude

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    May 10th 2007, 22:24

    Yea, it's close to the subway which takes people to a downtown that unfortunately is not where most of the region's best jobs are. There are few to no walkable amenities in the immediate vicinity. And getting anyone a notch above "low income" people into this building will mean that enough on-site parking will have to be made available. Behind the building there is only enough room for 15-20 cars max.

  7. scooter

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    May 10th 2007, 10:24

    tudorguy......agreed.....nothing against low income housing. or the people that need it.

    But we cant expect further growth and development around this site if its all section 8.

    And growth and development is what we need.

  8. NBJOHN

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    May 10th 2007, 15:18

    The Hotel Lafayette is the greatest pity.... Kind of shows have far DT has fallen, but with places like Buffalo Rising bringing these issues up/reporting them, along with people with foresight and deep pockets, maybe that will return to its past glory before becoming a parking lot

  9. zen

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    May 10th 2007, 10:58

    scooter, will part of it be set aside for S-8 or all?

  10. scooter

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    May 10th 2007, 09:53

    Plaza Group - 653 Main - Pierce Building.

    I got to tour it.....it's awesome....only four apt upstairs....but nice.....great view. Great renovation.

    I hope the Packard turns out similar to the Pierce.

    Main Street is really coming alive....slowly....but getting there.

  11. Bizzles

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    May 10th 2007, 10:59

    Because "money" won't move on to that part of Main in its curent state. Without the matching federal credits this project would not be feasible. Just be glad something is being done withthe building so that it dosen't turn itno a parking lot. "Growth and development" needs to start somewhere, often small.

  12. katiemd

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    May 10th 2007, 14:11

    Since when is there an area in Buffalo desingated as "Midtown?" It sounds pretty affected.

  13. dude

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    May 10th 2007, 11:29

    Bizzles is right. That section of Main is a tough sell for those who can chose where to live. Hopefully Artspace will help change that a bit, but it will still be years before that area is "there".

  14. doc

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    May 10th 2007, 14:22

    I visited the site of the Vernor demo and obtained a few pieces of the glazed terra cotta cornice, cleaned them up and installed them in my garden. They look great. I did the same thing with a piece of the Chamber of Commerce building that was demo'd for a parking lot (I think some of the building is stored somewhere, at least the glass dome). It's my way of keeping the building alive. Although I have to say that if done properly, that piece of real estate could support a beautiful, totally urban, brownstone-style condo development in the 500,000 to 2,000,000 range.

  15. MJWorthington

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    May 10th 2007, 12:22

    Just like the the Elk Terminal would never take off?

    These areas need money living in them. While the low income may guaranty the buidling gets reused it does not ensure a neighborhood turn around.

    The city needs to develop some plans that allow a savings (incentive) to build for those at, or just above the median too. Maybe even something like delayed taxes that could be recouped upon future sale of the building?

    Similar to the housing rehabs/new builds. Helping out low income is nice, but until people with some more money start living in these ares they will continue to be on a subsidized slide. The initial wave of money needs some incentive to kick start these neighborhoods.

  16. kelly

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    May 10th 2007, 15:14

    Why is it that every development these days is either for low income or high? Where's the mid range? I don't qualify for section 8 or any sort of low income housing by a long stretch, but I can't afford $1000 or more a month plus utilities for a one bedroom, either, and it seems like those are the only options for the huge number of new developments we've seen in recent years.

  17. chris69

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    May 10th 2007, 12:46

    I dont care if its Section 8...as long as the building isnt demolished. A Section 8 building could eventually be converted into free market apartments or condos....but there is no alternative in a demolished building.

    This is what should have happened with the schmidt and vernor!

    I dont care what the interior of the Schmidt and Vernor were like...at the very least...they should have kept the facades and built the new building in the back.

  18. Biniszkiewicz

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    May 10th 2007, 15:19

    A few weeks ago there was substantial discussion concerning section 8 and BMHA builidings in Allentown and how they drag the neighborhood down. The Buckingham, The Red Jacket, many others were rehabbed by money for Section 8 tenants years ago. Today these buildings drag the neighborhood down. But when they were rehabbed, Allentown wasn't healthy like today. Most were done in the 1970s and early 1980s. It was the only way to feasibly rehab the projects. It could be argued that Allentown's resurgence was kick started by all the federal money that went into these apartment buildings.

    Today Allentown is healthy and we look to the day the Section 8 requirements expire. Hopefully the same will be true here, as the neighborhood gentrifies over time, kick started in part by projects like this.

    Also: as to why this location? One reason is that it is very close to the subway and multiple bus routes and employment opportunities downtown and in the neighborhood.

  19. priezcykniewski

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    May 10th 2007, 13:03

    why the hell do the damned poor people screw everything up? what happened to the idea of converting the Aud into a giant rooming house? or why can't they move some of them to depew or hamburg, two places with ugly names.

  20. Sal

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    May 11th 2007, 10:18

    Cash Cunningham has put a lot of money in this building already. The first floor showcase room is quite beautiful. The blocked windows are not my favorite but made with functionality and security in mind. Hopefully the new owners will take advantage of any financial options.